At last, I’m caught up! (I just started S17 last night)

I didn’t take any notes, but I remember it because I binged it all this week.

Heather

Her return opening scene was ICONIC

Loved her scenes with her kids, especially letting her daughters talk about being gay and bisexual

HBIC

The Nicole thing was so confusing (also, Nicole was prominently in the first few episodes and then just disappeared… so weird)

OMG. She looked JUST like Posh when she was in costume. Maybe that’s why I love her so much, because I also love Victoria Beckham

Jen

Didn’t like her

Right after Braunwyn, didn’t want to see another messy ass marriage

She wasn’t very memorable to me

I did think she was funny when she drank though

Noella

I thought I’d like her, but she was too much for me.

I wonder if she was added to the cast so they could say they have/had a black cast member?

Her husband leaving her and her dad dying… That’s a lot. I felt bad for her.

That being said, I feel she did use those events in her life to shift focus to herself a lot, which is why I think she butted heads with everyone so much.

Also, you can’t say something to someone and then get upset when they throw it back at you (regarding her telling Heather karma would fix her (or whatever she said about Heather’s karma) and Heather saying whatever she said about karma already coming for Noella). If you hadn’t said it, it wouldn’t have been said back to you!

Also, also, she cries to her mom saying Heather said her karma was her husband leaving, her dad dying and her son having autism (1. That isn’t what Heather said… though heavily implied. 2. I don’t even think Heather knew Noella’s kid had autism, I don’t remember them discussing it on the show, though I’m not always paying attention.)

Her and the allegation that Heather assaulted a crew member. Her story went back and forth. She heard it. She saw it. She didn’t see it. She did see it. She didn’t see it… Girl. Stop.

Her “beef” with Jen felt so contrived. Their issue was Jen tagged her in an IG pic? Girl. Stop. Then she had to report it to IG… instead of just removing the tag.

She was just a lot.

Very pretty though. I’ll give her that.

Shannon

Shannon was irritating this season.

I also didn’t like the things John was saying about Gina. I get that when you’re in a relationship you’re gonna vent to your significant other, but they shouldn’t be vocal like that, b/c what happens when the friendship rekindles, but your man has already talked his shit about your friend?

Emily

No longer my favorite, because Heather is back, but she’s a close second.

I loved the charity she’s a part of (I don’t remember the name and I’m not gonna look it up.)

Gina

Loved her friendship with Heather.

It was great seeing them take on NY

She’s better than me being able to interact w/ her ex-husband after that domestic violence incident. (I know she pretty much had to do it for the sake of co-parenting and I have a lot of respect for that.)

Really enjoyed her this season

So, I have no notes, however, I watched this all last week, so I should be okay. Let’s go!

Elizabeth

I wanted to like her but found it very hard to do. Like the ladies, I found it strange (and annoying) that she would say she couldn’t talk about her divorce… but she would talk about the divorce a lot… and the fact that she can’t talk about it. Very strange.

Her relationship with her boyfriend was also strange. He didn’t want to have sex because she was technically married, but it seemed they lived together and he was her boyfriend. It was weird.

She went from being very fake to very real and it was very jarring.

Sidenote, I was halfway through the season when I realized Tamra wasn’t there.

Braunwyn

The sober storyline was interesting. I don’t know about a sober journey, so I don’t want to be judgmental… it just seems like she went from drinking to immediately knowing everything about sobriety. It was jarring

Her girlfriend who wasn’t her girlfriend moving in during COVID-19 was very weird.

LOVED the scenes with her son going to try on makeup and trying on her dresses. Say what you want about her (and really any of these women), but she’s a great mom.

LOVED her getting involved in the BLM protests. It was jarring to see it come up on this franchise because it isn’t known for its melanian (off the top of my head, the only WOC I can think of were Jo, Peggy (the 2nd Peggy), and Kelly, and no black women… but I’m not about to look it up to see the previous cast).

It was sad to see her marriage dissolve and I wonder how things would have been for them if lockdown hadn’t happened.

Now, I’m not a Braunwyn fan, but man did the reunion make me feel bad for her. There were moments when she was playing with her hair and it felt like it was from being anxious and uncomfortable. The ladies ganged up on her.

Shannon

I don’t have much to say about her other than I really didn’t like what she did to Braunwyn at the reunion. I get that what Braunwyn did wasn’t cool… but she could have left it in the past or addressed it in a different way. Braunwyn was already being ganged up on and Shannon brings up that at some point in the past (it had to have been at least a year ago at that point, b/c Braunwyn was celebrating her year of sobriety), she told Shannon’s daughter to text her if she ever wants the good shit (referring to drugs… I assume). And Braunwyn felt mortified, and Shannon immediately accepted the apology and said it was alright, whatever, whatever… so why bring it up?!? It just didn’t sit right with me and it felt more like Shannon brought it up to have a moment more than her actually wanting an apology for it.

Emily

She loves her man, and I love Emily. She’s still my favorite.

Her taking Shane to the hospital was very scary.

Gina

The domestic violence thing was so scary and I felt so sad for her.

Kelly

Over her, and I feel like if not for the BLM topic coming up and her having something to say, she might have been on S16 (which I’ve already watched)

She gave such pick-me-minority energy. (They are the type to say, well I’m *insert minority group*, and *insert offensive thing* doesn’t bother me!)

Her saying she’s black on the reunion was very weird… b/c she was playing dumb like she didn’t know what the fuck they were talking about. Having a 23 and me that says you have some African ancestry isn’t the same as identifying as black.

Drunk Wives Matter. BFFR.

The last couple of seasons of the show I watched in January… but it seems I didn’t start S14 until Sept (or at least that’s when I took my last note. I know I finished it sometime last week or the week before… finally.)

WHERE’S HEATHER?!?

Gina

Don’t like her

Don’t like how she treats Emily (I see how Emily thinks she got in w/ the popular kids and turned on her)

She was right to go off on Braunwyn

I don’t have kids, but the idea of staying together for the kids… in this day and age, seems more damaging to the kids than good

Kelly

Messy again, but not wrong about Vicki

Calling Vicki a pig bitch, lol

Emily

I really like her

Feel bad for her about her friendship w/ Gina

Wish she hadn’t lashed out at Shannon w/ a weight insult

Tamra

Meh

Shit stirrer

Eddie was very dismissive when Tamra talked about Ryan’s depression

Shannon

Meh

I get that she should get something from David in the divorce… but I also thought she came from a wealthy family?

She can’t go to Key West b/c that’s where David started his affair… he was sleeping w/ a woman in the OC, and you’re still there.

Now she is saying she THINKS that’s where he started the affair. Girl, bye.

Braunwyn

Not my cup of tea

Way too many kids

Husband gives gay vibes

I feel like she should have worked out her childhood issues by now

Crying for being called out for lying seems very on brand for her

She cries too much

Her mom getting grabbed at the fashion show reminded me of Ryan v Lydia’s mom.

I thought the fashion show event hostess was going to de-escalate the situation, not make it worse…

I didn’t take many notes for this one and I saw this in January, so let’s see what I remember…

Emily

My note just said weird. I really like Emily, so that was probably referring to her marriage, b/c how she and Shane got together was weird (or at least the way they tell it is weird.)

Loved that she represents a more curvy (and realistic) body type. It would bother me when people would talk about her weight b/c she isn’t fat, she’s just bigger than the others.

Love her friendship with Gina.

Gina

My only note said “Mob Wives”. While I love Mob Wives, I wasn’t a fan of Gina’s. I also thought it was weird we didn’t see her husband.

Tamra & Vicki & Shannon

I don’t remember this season to have an opinion on what they did.

Kelly

I like her now! I’m Team Kelly against Vicki

She and her daughter serving at the homeless shelter was a nice moment. The homeless man thanking them touched me.

(I also watched this back in January)

WHERE’S HEATHER?!?

Meghan

She’s better than me. Kelly trying to criticize her as a mom… and Meghan still tried to say bye before leaving

Shannon

I relate to Shannon and weight gain just sneaking up on you

Not the camera panning to “The Quiet Woman” sign after the yelling match

Lydia

One, she’s back!!

Seemed unfair to Shannon

Her husband is so cute

Vicki

She and Kelly seem bitter

She said she had a great relationship w/ Brooks, but at the S10 reunion, she said she was afraid of him…

Gretchen!!!

I’m sorry but the robe over Vicki’s face when she goes to the ambulance…

Tamra

The zoom in on all the rings during the prayer

They blurred Shannon giving the finger but not Tamra

Tamra walking down Shannon’s hallway was hilarious

The hug at the end of the reunion

Kelly

Go away

So wrong for her to tell Shannon to keep eating and then laugh about it

Peggy

A new Peggy? Let’s see what she brings

I feel bad about her parents… it felt odd that she was talking to Vicki about it

Didn’t like her shutting Meghan’s mouth

Peggy says Shannon is coming at the Vicki situation from an emotional place and she is coming from a rational place… but she JUST said that Vicki’s compassion about her cancer scare touched her, so she’s also coming from an emotional (and biased) place

Her husband is hot

The butterfly thing is stupid. I don’t think she realizes how dumb she made them look in front of the waitress

I find it weird that Peggy talks to her kids about the drama going on in the group

Peggy is over here trying to tell the paramedics what to do… At one point she says, do whatever you think is best to make her feel better… duh?!?

She’s unbearable

She went to the hospital instead of waiting for the others b/c her husband said to?…

Why did she bring up Meghan’s crying baby if not to imply Meghan wasn’t taking care of her kid… and if she meant something else, why didn’t she clarify?

I hate that they seem to make it like she doesn’t have a good grasp of English or something, hasn’t she been in America since she was 1?!?

Just b/c they were laughing didn’t mean they were laughing at her

(I’d like to preface that I watched this in January and never made a post for some reason, so I won’t really know the context of my notes from them.)

Kelly:

She seems messy

Let’s not flirt with the man who had a whole cheating scandal last season!

I don’t like her

I thought Eric (her brother) was gay…

Now at Shannon’s party, I really don’t like Kelly (and her husband gives gay vibes too.)

Now she said it was a bitch move for the girl to talk about her having a bf when she was separated from her husband… but she says “no wonder you cheated on your wife” referring to David and Shannon

Kelly is really bad at defending the bad things she has done/said

Her kitchen is so white

A defamation of character lawsuit would be a waste of money. It requires them to purposefully say something they know isn’t true, and it has to have some tangible damage (like to a business.)

So, if someone said she sucked dick for money and she didn’t have a kid, it would be ok?

How can she say she doesn’t behave this way when she literally behaved this way. I’d have questions about her being around my kid (if I had one) too!

Why is she not heading towards the bathroom or trash can if she needs to vomit?

Why is she shocked that he is upset about her talking about when they were going through a divorce and he wouldn’t give her money… you’re together now, that doesn’t matter

So messy to bring up Tamra’s daughter

She said she doesn’t have a drinking problem and then talking about going to court-ordered AA

Now “being pushed” is the excuse for her bad behavior

Heather:

She yelled at Kelly at the sushi party like she was her damn kid… and then told her to leave. Yes, snaps!

Then, when Kelly won’t leave, she leaves. lol

Why is she crying in the car?!? (with no tears)

I was on Shannon and Meghan’s side about not going to the hospital until Meghan said it was 45 mins for them to go to the hospital… But also, why aren’t Heather and Kelly going?!?

“I don’t care. You shouldn’t have said that about her kid.” I love Heather so much.

I love how upset she was about being kicked out of the store. “is there an AMERICAN in here?” lol

Heather filming in the hotel was so messy

Not her saying Kelly was having a psychotic break

Vicki

I feel bad for Brianna

Vicki wanting sympathy but not understanding why the women are mad at her is weird

I get that Brianna is sick, but them replaying this “she’s not gonna make it” clip from Vicki… clearly she made it, she’s doing confessionals

I don’t like Vicki, but David should stay out of it

The door was clearly unlocked when Troy “locked himself in Vicki’s car”

Brianna and dem babies *heart*

You’re lucky Meghan came to visit you at all!

She’s still the first one to come see you after the accident

How is Vicki not on Tamra’s side after the pub incident?

Tamra:

Not Ryan and Sara already separated

Messy pot stirrer again

Her hyperventilating was scary

Meghan:

Jimmy and those candles… Very gay

I love how she always calls out Vicki’s bs

I don’t get wanting to have a baby w/ a man who is gone so much

How is Meghan friends w/ Kelly. Kelly is so messy and Meghan is so… not

Jimmy doesn’t seem to give a damn that she’s pregnant

I wouldn’t have apologized to Heather

I wouldn’t have apologized to Vicki or Tamra either

Jim was sweet when she discovered only one of the embryos made it

I’m glad she called Kelly out about talking about Tamra’s kid

Her looking for O’Tooles was kinda cringe

Shannon

She sounds like a cartoon character (I mean that as a compliment. I think she should look into voice-over, if she hasn’t already. I love her voice)

The women stopping their convo to watch Shannon and Kelly argue

David naked in that pool… *hot*

Shannon’s mom-in-law is messy. She knows why she went to Kelly to talk mess

So, she’s yelling at David bc his mom doesn’t like her and told the girls Shannon drove him to cheat… He didn’t say it. She did!